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What will Tyler Seguin do in his second year? 08.24.11 at 4:29 am ET
By DJ Bean

Tyler Seguin showed flashes of brilliance as a rookie, but he has a long way to go to be a regular contributor in Boston. (AP)

With captains’ practices just two short weeks from commencing, WEEI.com will be looking at the questions facing the defending Stanley Cup champions in the 2011-12 season.

This time last year, there were plenty of questions on the mind of any Bruins fan. Much like the 2003 Red Sox, the 2009-10 Bruins left a bad taste in fans’ mouths from the heartbreaking fashion in which they were eliminated the season before. As a result, the B’s went out and added a couple of big names (Nathan Horton and Tyler Seguin) with the hope that the team that came so close to the conference finals the year before was just a player or two from something special.

So, with all of the anticipation for the 2010-11 campaign came plenty of questions. Would Tim Thomas bounce back from a subpar season, and would hip surgery make a difference? (That one was answered pretty quickly.) Then there was the question of whether Michael Ryder and Blake Wheeler would turn in performances better than their underwhelming 2009-10 campaigns. While Wheeler wasn’t around to completely answer the question, Ryder gave as strong a “kind of” as one could by being a healthy scratch at points of a regular season that matched his 18 goals of a season prior, while also being one of the team’s playoff heroes. People wondered how Horton might go about adjusting to a hockey market, whether Claude Julien was the right coach for the team and whether Tuukka Rask could once again be the best goalie (statistically speaking) in the league.

Many of those questions were answered emphatically. Now with a Cup ring thanks largely to his decision to go with a defensive super pair of Zdeno Chara and Dennis Seidenberg, Julien not only is the right coach for the team but should be considered one of the best coaches in the league. Thomas was the best goaltender this side of any body of water, Ryder and Wheeler have moved on, and Horton played his best when it mattered most. Now that last year’s questions have been answered and captains’ practices are a short two weeks away, it’s worth taking a look at what questions surround the Bruins as they begin their title defense.

First up is a question that will likely be discussed plenty leading into the season: What will Seguin do in his second year?

There are several truths regarding Seguin. He’s the Bruins’ most talented player. He’s essentially their only hope when it comes to those pesky shootouts. He’ll always be compared to Phil Kessel. And, until he is one of the 10 best scorers in the league, people will question the reason why, and such questions will likely be accompanied by some sort of finger-pointing at the coach.

One of the more puzzling things to hear over the course of last season was that the Bruins were botching Seguin’s development. The team’s priority was to win the Stanley Cup, so Julien operated under the same earn-your-ice-time mindset as he always had used. Remember, when the season started Seguin was a third-liner and Brad Marchand was a fourth-liner. Yes, there is a considerable age difference between the two, but the idea that Julien didn’t want to give the youngster a chance is both baseless and unfair.

Regardless of how he was handled as a rookie, here is how the second overall pick in the 2010 draft fared: He had 11 goals and 11 assists for 22 points and a minus-4 rating in 74 regular-season games. He was a healthy scratch at points of the regular season, and remained one when the postseason began. After jumping in for the concussed Patrice Bergeron at the start of the conference finals vs. the Lightning (and breaking Milan Lucic‘s toe with a slap shot in practice), he shined in the first three games of the series, notably racking up a four-point period in the second period of Game 2 and playing what this scribe feels was his most complete game in Game 3. He would end up losing his spot once again in the Stanley Cup finals, but only for a game, as Horton was lost for the playoffs in Game 3. He finished the postseason with three goals and four assists for seven points and a plus-5 in 13 games.

Though he scored big goals and won the Cup as a rookie (his performances in Games 2 and 3 vs. the Lightning are enough for one to make the “They wouldn’t have won the Cup without him” argument if so desired), Seguin was not the player that many hope he’ll be. While he is strong and in tremendous shape, Seguin needs to be more comfortable with the physical game, something he admitted to doing little of in his OHL days.

It seems that the physicality, when it did occur, came with confidence for Seguin. His aforementioned solid Game 3 performance came against the Lightning, and it isn’t far-fetched to draw a connection with the fact that it followed the best statistical game of his young career. In Game 3, he had no problem going into corners or drawing players to him along the boards. In fact, he set up Andrew Ference‘s goal in that game by drawing two Lightning players to him and dishing it to Chris Kelly. As the games without points went on, Seguin was getting less pucks to the net, playing a less physical game and getting less ice time. This season will be a big test for the 19-year-old, as he doesn’t have to play with an edge to do the things that will make him a more complete player.

Then there’s the question of the players he ends up skating with. One of the biggest arguments in the case for Ryder to stay was the fact that, occasionally, Seguin could work magic with him more so than any other player. Now that Ryder has departed for for Dallas, Seguin could end up on a line of three capable centers with Kelly and Rich Peverley, or he could end up jumping up the second line with Bergeron. Both scenarios have their pros and cons, as Peverley’s speed teamed with that of Seguin’s for a prolonged period could become something explosive. Playing on the second line would temporarily halt Seguin’s days at center, though he play some center on a line with Bergeron last season.

If you want numbers, history may not be the best teacher, as looking back at other recent second overall picks doesn’t tell much. Bobby Ryan, selected second in 2005, spent much of his first two professional seasons in the AHL. Jordan Staal followed up a 42-point (29 G, 12 A) rookie season in 2006-07 with a drop-off in his sophomore campaign, as he ended up scoring just 12 goals and adding 16 assists for 28 points (which remains a career-low). Philadelphia’s James van Riemsdyk needed two years of college hockey to let his skills catch up with his body, and didn’t make it to the NHL until he was 20 years of age. His stats haven’t been drastically different from one year to the next (he had 35 points as a rookie and added 40 more last season), though his performance in Game 2 of the conference quarterfinals vs. the Bruins may have been the best individual effort by a skater the B’s faced in their playoff run. After being selected second overall in 2008, Kings defenseman Drew Doughty had an outstanding season in his second campaign, totaling 16 goals and 43 assists for 59 points (third amongst defensemen) following a 27-point rookie season. Victor Hedman, the second overall pick in the 2009 draft, has gotten about the same minutes and similar production over his two seasons.

Then there’s the player to whom Seguin has been compared to the most (with perhaps the exception of Steve Yzerman) in Lightning center Steven Stamkos. Something clicked for Stamkos after healthy scratches as a rookie, and by the end of his first year Stamkos was close to the player he is today. As a result, it isn’t surprising that he jumped from 23 goals and 46 points as a rookie to 51 goals and 95 points in his second season. Will that switch be flipped for Seguin during his second season, or has it already been flipped?

Seguin likely will receive similar treatment he did a season ago, and as he gets more comfortable in the league, both his confidence and ice time will increase. As season after he totaled 22 points, the guess here is that he’ll have upwards of 40, with the possibility still existing that this could be the year he becomes a superstar.

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  • B. Cameron

    My prediction… Sequin will do nothing better than last year. Most talented guy on the team??? Far from it. Ryder has more talent in his left foot. Speaking of Ryder, try watching closely all the Bruins 2011 playoff games. If it wasn’t for Ryder we wouldn’t have won the cup (pay special attention to the last 4 games of the Montreal series). Period.

  • Stanley C.

    Michael Ryder was a serviceable player who has a world of talent but has a tendency to disappear for long stretches of the season. For 4 million a year you should a consistent effort and there were far to many healthy scratches for my liking. He certainly played a role in winning the Cup, but every on that team player did.

    If you can’t see Seguin has more raw talent than Ryder you need to find a new sport. If you don’t like the kid just say it.

  • Chris

    The reason they won the cup was thomas. He was out of his mind in some of those games. In the end everyone contributed and you can make cases for many of them being the hero but without thomas , they do not win it, period. If they do not repeat this year, its not going to be because we didn’t re-sigtn ryder but I do agree that right now, seguin isn’t the most talented, the most potential, Yea, but the most talented is probably Krejci, but even he’s inconsistent.

  • Matt

    @B. Cameron, the problem is Ryder is LAZY and never shows up in regular season games (with the exception of the HABS), and never tries until the playoffs, and even in the playoffs at times he takes plays off. If he actually TRIED he could be a 30 goal scorer every year. He is HORRIBLE defensively, softer than the Pillsbury dough boy, and skates like he has a broken left leg. Also, look at a lot of his goals, a good percentage of them were garbage goals 2 feet outside of the crease that my 76 year old grandmother could score. He does have a VERY, VERY good wrist shot, though. I do agree that they wouldn’t have won the cup without him, but he was more of a rover and a “passenger” that didn’t live up to his $4M/YR contract (which equates to 25-30 goals and 50+ points a year).

    Seguin definitely has more raw talent than Ryder. He is a better skater, has a better shot and has better vision; and above all, has the RARE ability the keep the puck on his stick that extra second to let his wingers get open.

    I’ve watched him since he’s been with Plymouth (Kitchener Rangers fan), and I think he’ll be a solid player. The only question is WHEN. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want the Bruins to have gotten the #1 pick so they would have selected Taylor Hall over Seguin. Hall was WAY more NHL ready, and is more physical/aggressive and he also has a better scoring touch. Even in Claude’s heavily defensive system, Hall would have scored 25 this year.

    Just be patient. As for this year, I think Seguin will be centering the 3rd line with Kelly and Pouliot on the wings. The good thing about this team is that, WHEN (not if, but WHEN) Savy is again placed on the LTIR, they’ll have sooo much cap space, that they can afford to take on ANY salary, and obtain multiple parts at the Trade Deadline if they have injuries, or if Pouliot is not performing.

    I think Seguin this year, will have 16-20-36.

  • B. Cameron

    @Stanley… New sport? No, from Toronto, been playing hockey since ’70 (always a Bruin fan). Ok, I will. I don’t like the kid.

    @Matt… No Savard I fear. Loved the kid in the first couple of years. He’ll sadly be hanging them up in my opinion. On the other note, I honestly don’t understand the Sequin aura with Bruins fans. I don’t think he’ll adjust UNLESS he gains 25 lbs of muscle and learns how to be a power forward in this league. I saw him do one thing special (game 4 against Tampa) last year and a dozen plus stupid things. I saw Ryder do a dozen plus special things last year and one stupid thing (I will agree he can seem disinterested/lazy? at times in the regular season but watch the season again and see if you can’t say the same thing about Lucic).

    My prediction Sequin gets 18 goals, 15 assists and is -4 again.

  • SoxOrGoHoMe

    I think that the comparisons to Stamkos are a bit of a stretch but there’s no denying the fact that Seguin has a tremendous amount of talent. Remember the goal that Seguin scored against Tampa Bay when he turned on the afterburners and blew right past two defenders to put the puck in the net with the ease of a seasoned vet? This kid shows flashes of being an elite player in the NHL. Will he realize his full potential this year? Probably not. But I think it’s safe to say he’ll be better than he was last year. You just never know when someone will take their game to the next level. It happens all the time. Remember Mark Messier? When he was drafted in the 3rd round (48th overall) nobody thought he was going to be one of the best scorers in the NHL after a mediocre rookie season where he scored just 12 goals. Two years later he was scoring 50 goals and proving to everyone in the league that he was a force to be reckoned with. To just dismiss Seguin after a sub par rookie season is just rediculous. The kid has a world of talent. I don’t know what you have against Seguin but as a Bruin fan you should be ashamed of yourself. How about we root on our younger players instead of damning them for no reason.

  • Matt

    @Cameron

    Agree completely about Seguin having to be more physical. 25 pounds might be a bit of a stretch, but definitively 10-15 pounds of muscle. I’ve heard rumblings that he’s already put on 10 pounds of muscle. But that doesn’t mean he’ll definitely improve his physical (or lack there of) play. Remember Blake Wheeler? The guy was 6’3+ over 200 pounds, and was softer than the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

    I agree on the Seguin aura, let’s wait until he actually does something until we anoint him as a Franchise-type player. I really think he will be a solid player, but that’s just the opinion of a guy that watched OHL hockey consistently the last few years, as well as him in person only a few times.

    He DOES NOT have to be a Stamkos-type player; lighting the lamp for 45-50 goals every year. I’d be more than satisfied if he is a Patrick Kane type of player (I personally think he is more similar to Kane than Stamkos). Yes, they play different positions, but Kane played a lot of Centre as he came up through the ranks. He’s not the most physical player in the world, also.

    If he is like Kane, who wouldn’t be thrilled with a guy posting 27-45-72 type numbers once he figures the game out? Yes, he might not be a Stamkos or Malkin type player (something that MANY people in this area compared him to and said he would be like in terms of his impact), but nothing is wrong with that! Malkin and Stamkos type-skilled players come around only so often, and both players were more advanced (and by a good-sized margin) than Seguin in their draft years. Patrick Kane-type numbers are pretty damn impressive.

  • Dave M

    Totally agree with Matt. Ryder took too much time off plays. too lazy. I also lost any respect for hime when he just sttod and watched after Savard was demolished against Pitt suffering the concussion that he will NEVER RECOVER FROM. Have fun in Dallas Ryder

  • Cathy

    I agree with the previous comments – Tyler Seguin isn’t the best player on the team. He has potential to be the best player though. He’s 19 yr. old. Any one who will sit before his stats and say he won’t improve; needs to think about how they were when they were 19. Are they the same, with the same skills and ability, thoughts and notions?
    With more ice time, and this Stanley Cup win under his belt, he will improve.

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