Nobody would have been surprised if negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement were to take a turn for the worse, and that’s exactly what happened between the NHL and NHLPA Thursday in Toronto.

After a negotiating session between the two sides that lasted just over an hour, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters that the two sides are “not speaking the same language” and called the meeting a “step backward.”

During the session, the NHLPA submitted three counter-proposals to Tuesday’s offer from the league. The league’s offer had included a 50-50 split of hockey-related revenue, with Bettman telling reporters after Thursday’s meeting that none of the three counter-proposals “even began to approach 50-50.”

The league has already cancelled games through Oct. 24. If the NHLPA was to have accepted the offer submitted by the league within the next week, an 82-game season would be able to start on Nov. 2, though that seems a longshot considering that the sides are still apart in negotiations.