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Shawn Thornton doesn’t want Zdeno Chara to fight his battles vs. John Scott 02.07.13 at 1:19 pm ET
By DJ Bean

Shawn Thornton doesn't want anyone else fighting his battles for him. (AP)

WILMINGTON — Bruins forward Shawn Thornton skated with a group of teammates Thursday at Ristuccia Arena as he continued working his way back from a concussion suffered a week earlier in a fight with Sabres enforcer John Scott. Daniel Paille (upper-body) also took the ice, while Brad Marchand (shoulder) did not practice as he was examined by team doctors. Claude Julien would not rule out any of the three players for Saturday’s game against the Lightning.

Thornton, who has missed the last two games, said that he is “cleared for practice, cleared for contact,” and hasn’t been told whether he’ll play this weekend against Tampa Bay or Buffalo (Sunday).

Much has been made of the aftermath of the short-lived bout between Thornton and Scott. Thornton failed to get a punch in as the 6-foot-8, 270-pound Scott beat him convincingly, leading to some speculation from talk radio callers and select media members that Bruins captain Zdeno Chara should fight Scott on Sunday.

Thornton emphasized that he didn’t think there is anything for the B’s to avenge, as it was simply a fight that didn’t go in his favor. He especially stressed that he is against the idea of Chara fighting Scott as a result of it.

“I don’t even know where that [expletive] comes from,” Thornton said. “Listen, Zee’s our best player and arguably the best defenseman in the league. There’s no reason for him to have to fight my battles. I’ve done this for a long time and it’s on me.

“Listen, if I knocked him out I wasn’t expecting somebody to come grab me the next shift. It’s part of it. We’re both men and it happens.”

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  • Journeyman Wires

    Gutta love thornton

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Thornton on this entirely. Scott and Thornton are both considered two of the top ten fighters in the NHL period. That list is according to nhl fights. I feel that list is pretty accurate and Chara nor any other Bruin is on that list. 

    We saw Chara fight Scott when Scott was a Blackhawk and it was basically a tie. So if Thornton who is considered a better fighter than Chara; wants to take on Scott than that is up to him. If he wins or loses tough sh*t, it is what it is. 

    Had Scott run Thornton, or cheap shotted him that would be another thing. Seems to me like our fighter took on their fighter and lost and we all want to cry about it. 

    There will be plenty more games for the Bruins to get the Sabres back for that game this year. I am sure by the end of the year we will have won the physical battle in that matchup. 

  • Cfn

    I am sorry, was I reading an article on hockey or boxing?  Last time I checked the aim is to get the puck into the net as many times as possible.  Does fighting win games for you in hockey?  Serious question since I don’t watch hockey all that much.  Doesn’t it put your team into penalty and make it easier for the other team to score?

  • MCDextro

    Chara has never fought with Scott, you are probably thinking of David Koci.

  • tony

    The casual fan will never understand and i truly wish they mtob, Go watch fiqure skating. Hockey has had fighting in it since they dropped tha first puck. Why should it change for the casual fan who isn’t going to watch it either way.

  • glenn88

    The list you are referring to is probably rankings by PIM for fighting majors and not ability to fight.   Luci was voted toughest in the league by actual players.  He isn’t on the list you refer to, because he doesn’t rack up the fighting majors.  Also, Chara is easily in the top 10 based on reach alone.  Not sure anybody has ever gotten the best of Chara.  

  • Anonymous

    Correct, writing from memory sometimes leads to errors. Changed it. 

  • IfYou’reNOTaHockeyFan…

     Think of it similar to pitchers brushing back batters in baseball or offensive/defensive linemen beating on each other throughout a football game. But wait, isn’t baseball just about scoring runs and football just about scoring touchdowns? On the surface, perhaps, but sports aren’t that simple.

    It you have a big nasty brute who can hit hard but not score, what prevents him from just sticking to, intimidating and beating up your top scorers or just your teammates? That’s where muscle comes in. It’s the way hockey self-polices. It’s a way to establish physical and psychological advantage and momentum. It’s a way to make a statement. It can completely change momentum and games and series.

  • Anonymous

    Actually no, has very little to do with PIMS. The rankings I am using are here. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/704855-the-top-15-best-fighters-in-the-nhl. Thornton fights a lot more than Chara and Lucic combined and generally takes on the best fighter on the other team, just saying.

    I have never seen Chara win, lose, or even fight lately, nor do I care. That’s not his role, Chara’s role is to be the best defensive defenseman I have ever seen play. Granted Orr and Park were before my time and Bourque was a far better overall defenseman than Chara. However, as a defensive player, Chara eliminates more ice than anyone I have ever seen and plays half the game. 

    Exchanging Chara for Scott, a guy that can’t skate, to maybe come out even in a fight is not worth it. There is no guarantee Lucic or Chara would have won that fight. 

    Let your fighter take the fight and deal with the loss if it happens is what I am saying.

  • N15jb

    I hope we see a rematch sunday…i feel like it will probably go a little differently…..if it was a movie it could be called “How Thorty got his groove back”…cuz it was a strange thing seeing him get shalacked like that …gotta rebound

  • kozlodoev

    “The casual fan will never understand and i truly wish they mtob, Go watch fiqure skating. Hockey has had fighting in it since they dropped tha first puck. Why should it change for the casual fan who isn’t going to watch it either way.”

    Oh, sorry that casual fans want to mess it up for you. Maybe those wannabe “tough guys” should try MMA to see how much they’ll last? In any case, I have no desire to watch inferior fighting — if I want fights, I head over to see martial sports.

  • Johnny Spygate

    I’ll type slow so the hockey fans can understand: no one cares about your sport.  No one cares who won that fight of who lost.  I love the tough guys telling other posters to go “watch figure skating”.  Yeah, you tell’em, sport!!!  Tell those sports fans looking to watch actual sports to go f themselves!
    I’m bored now

  • Jimmy Freeze

    If Buffalo is going to hire a thug to go after the Bruins…I think they should do the same…get Pollard some skates…and let him concuss the snot out of any Sabre that crosses the Red line.

  • Dope Hunter

    You seem to care John……..how’s the wife buddy?

  • CRY BAY-B’s

    He got KNOCKED THE F—- OUT! Plain and simple.  It’s part of the game, it has been for years.  Props to Thornton and Scott both for mutually accepting the fight, it’s not like Scott jumped Thornton, in fact, if you watch the reply Thornton had his gloves off and was swinging before Scott did.  

    He lost, got the sh– beat out of him, and has more games to try for redemption if he wants.  As for Chara fighting, I doubt he would have fared much better against Scott.  I’d really like to see Scott get his mitts on Lucic, one can only hope.

    Quit crying you BAY-B’s!!! I remember a lot of chest pounding and sh– talking from the B’s fans after Lucic cheap shot hit a goalie last year, total p-ssy move!

  • DABRUINS

    Thought you died…..too bad maybe tomorrow.

  • Fab4ever

    Sorry John…once again your self-indulgence, this need of yours to pontificate, is ill advised..” no one cares about your sport”…actually John, folks love the sport…it’s just too fast for your slow and feeble mind to follow…maybe “Peter Puck” should now be called “Spygate Puck”…You’re bored? We’re bored with you…

  • Guest

     I like how you typed slow and still misspelled. I believe you meant to say “No one cares who won that fight or who lost.” Unfortunately, you said “No one cares who won that fight OF who lost.” Normally I wouldn’t make an asinine post about someone’s spelling, but when you make it a point to say you are going to type slow so us dumb witted hockey fans can understand. You basically open yourself up for this kind of ridicule.

  • Cfn

    Thanks for the clarification; so does the team that fights the most win more games?  Again, serious question.  I understand the intimidation factor, can’t hard checking do that?  How come they don’t fight in baseball or football if I am to go along with your premise?  Why can’t in hockey they hit hard, be agressive, rather than brawling.  My assumption isit is the culture.  What if they took fighting away, would hockey become less popular, maybe to the lug head like tony, but maybe it would attract more fans.  I am probably wrong but thought I would start a fight!  I like a good fight sometimes by way.

  • Anonymous

    He’s right. If John Scott pounds in Thornton’s skull, the Bruins lose their enforcer. If he somehow concussed Big Z, they lose their best defenseman (arguably among the top league-wide) and their Captain.

  • NYCBruinsFan

    I hope to watch Thornton go out there Sunday and skate a great game against Buffalo and score a goal to two God knows Scott won’t. Beat them and get the two points.

  • bospofan

     Actually Cfn, the Rangers led the league last year in fighting majors and the Bruins were second in that category and they both were very good teams. intimidation is only part of the reason to carry fighters on your team, protection is another.and hard checking does also work to intimidate an opponent. good points by you, as someone who seemingly doesn’t know the game. but from a fans point of view who has watched the Bruins win games since 1973, i can tell you that the fights are just damn awesome to watch! so sit back, grab a cold one, be a man, and enjoy the next Bruins game my friend.

  • Uncle Buck

    Do you walk around with a sign on your back which reads, “please do not pick on me, I am a world class idiot and I cannot help myself” ?  Whether you are aware of it or even if you care, that is the label you have earned here. Little John has made his daily pizz mark in the snow now.  Whoopdee effin doo.

  • Johnny Spygate

    Ouch.  Who are you really mad at, UB?  Was your oatmeal served cold or something this morning?  I know you older guys are very particular about that.  Why don’t you check back later when the fiber kicks in.  You’ll feel better and maybe not so angry.

  • Lgbs98

    Hopefully that shuts up all you waiting for retaliation! Thorton fights his own battles and knows what he’s doing. It rarely goes as that one did. Thanks Shawn for being you!

  • Uncle Buck

    Mad at the mosquito who keeps buzzing around trolling the Boston sports boards.  No oatmeal kid.  Fiber is fine thanks for the concern.  Very little anger either.  Just tired of your juvenile crap and your dancing around like a little itching powder fairy spreading your irritating nonsense.  You know what I mean kid, you’re sitting outside on a nice sunny day enjoying life and you see a fat mosquito perched on your arm and you slap if flat dead.  Just makes you feel better.  Don’t blame me, just the messenger telling it like it is kid.

  • glenn88

    The bleacher report list is just designated fighters (goons), most of whom are in and out of the NHL and AHL.  Their #1 fighter is in the AHL.  The writer just took a list of PIM leaders for fighting majors and rated them.  Parras, Thorton and Neal of Ottawa are probably the only 2 guys logging legit minutes on a line.  
    NHL players voted Luci #1 and Chara in their top 10.  Both Horton and Thorton were in the top 20. Another skilled player in the top 20 was a Neal of Pittsburgh.   If you have never watched Chara drop then you don’t watch a lot of Bruins hockey.  He steps in about 6 times a year, but he gets very few takers.  Chara is a beast and always gets hand position on the pads under the chin and uses the jab.  He is almost unbeatable. Also, Luci was voted #1 for a reason.  The percent of drops he gets is high.        

  • Anonymous

    You can take whatever list you want. The fact of the matter is this. Thornton is one of the best fighters in the league, so is Scott. Both accepted one lost. 

    Last night is exactly how the Bruins should handle Scott anyways. The guy cannot skate at all. Don’t engage him, make him play because when he is one the ice he is the equivalent to an orange cone. Did you see Marchand make a fool out of him? 

    Okay, so Lucic is probably the best fighter on the team. I never said otherwise, all I said is Thornton is not much worse. Chara by the way has never stepped in 6 times a year as a Bruin. Chara had four fights, total last year, one fight total the year before that, and two fights the year before that? How is that six fights a year? Chara fought a lot more as an Ottawa Senator when he was establishing himself early in his career. Now Chara doesn’t have to fight and shouldn’t take on bad players like Scott. Why would you exchange the best defenseman on your roster for a fourth line winger just to possibly win the fight, but that’s not a guarantee. Just because Thornton is shorter doesn’t mean he stands no chance, just ask PJ Stock and I think he would agree.  

    Before you accuse someone of not watching the games, which is clearly not the case with myself, get your facts straight. 

  • Gold Gloves

    They need to outlaw the fighting altogether. Remove the fighting players from the game. There is no reason for an audience to watch a two hour game turn into four hours just because of the fights in the rink. Take one of the days off and schedule a televised cage match with no rules, no gloves, no pads, no sissy’s. Then settle it.

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